The Covenant with Many
February 11, 2010 By Kevin Flower Israeli archaeologists say they've found a 1,500-year-old road, 4.5 meters under the current level of streets in Jerusalem's Old City.
The reason I am writing this post is because of the prophecy in Daniel that a lot of people write about on blogs and websites.
I don’t understand why the prophecy teachers and scholars that try to have an understanding of Daniel’s prophecies…get stuck on the same mantra.
I am not trying to be different, but I think there have been some colossal mistakes made by scholars, bible teachers and the whole spectrum of experts of the bible.
I don’t see how you can read the Gospel of John and collapse it into the Synoptic gospels and say they blend at all or compliment each other.
In Reality The Gospel of John and the Synoptic Gospels collide !
Here in the book of Daniel it talks about Messiah the Prince and a prince.
I don’t think the book of Daniel is speaking of our future but is talking about his future and our history!
Why does everyone think the covenant with many is for the future. How does one come to that conclusion from these verses?
Daniel 9:25-27
25Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
It is quite possible that the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince has already occurred,
but has been covered up by the
Chief Priests and the Legion
Ancient wall found in JerusalemWestern Wall, JerusalemThe Western Wall was built by King Herod in 20 BC during his expansion of the Temple enclosure, and is part of a retaining wall that enclosed the western part of Temple Mount. According to the Roman-Jewish historian Josephus, construction of the walls took 11 years, during which time it rained in Jerusalem only at night so as not to interfere with the workers’ progress. Ancient road found in Jerusalem’s heartFebruary 11, 2010|By Kevin Flower Archaeologists working under the direction of the Israeli Antiquities Authority have uncovered a 1500-year-old road running through the center of Jerusalem’s Old City. Excavation director Dr. Ofer Sion said the discovery lends further credence to the accuracy of what is known as the Madaba Map – a Byzantine period mosaic map of the Holy Land that depicts an entrance into Jerusalem that leads to a single central street. Archaeologists working in Jerusalem have made various finds to suggest the Madaba map was geographically correct, but the road depicted in the mosaic had not been found. |
Obviously, there have been two walls from two different temple eras
and a wall!
The only reason I added the above link and the information about the destruction of Jerusalem
and the temple and the destruction again of Jerusalemin in 135 AD
is because it might apply to Daniel’s prophecies.
Perhaps we are wrong about when Jesus really died? Many people seem to think Jesus was 30 or 33 when he started his ministry but in the Gospel of John they refer to him as not yet being 5o years old.
I would say we have a problem within the bible of who and which Jesus is the Messiah!
John 8:56-59
56Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
(Interesting that they threw stones at him.
“Cephus” means stone.
The Synoptic Gospels have built their “image of Jesus” metaphorically by using stones!)
By the way, I believe Cephus refers to Josephus Flavius!
Was there ever a decree to build the temple to the Messiah the Prince?
Perchance the destruction of Jerusalem in 135 AD is a clue?
Maybe the decree to build the temple to the Messiah the Prince occurred before 135 AD!
Seems odd that after the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD that anyone would need to destroy it again 65 years later.
Building a city takes time, and funds, and manpower,
so why was there a need to destroy it again so soon after it had already been destroyed?
Seems to me that most and maybe all scholars of the bible are making presumptions, because they lump the gospels into one big ball but I think, to be fair,
we should separate the Synoptic Gospels from the Gospel of John
and calculate both sides to see if maybe we can come up with some other answers.
Maybe that is what is meant by the 153 fish which relates to the inferred 153:265 ratio!
Pope Benedict XVI and 153 Great Fish
Pope Benedict XVI is the
265th Pope,
was born Joseph Aloisius Ratzinger
Mel Gibson, George Gänswein, and the Pope
George Gänswein, Pope Benedict XVI, and Mel Gibson
revised
In the two article above that I just recently posted which are very similar I included in both a link to an article I found on the internet about names!
Praising Or Pleading
(POP)
seems to be his MO these days and in this article he pleads for parents to give their children traditional names before baptism so I gather names have meaning to him!
So since they are so important I thought maybe his name might be important also.
The Pope’s Last Name
IN the article
I relate the possibility that the Pope is related to another Pope whose last name was RATTE which would fulfill another prophecy in Revelation 17:11 about him being the eighth and one of the seven:
The Seventh and the Eighth Pope of Revelation- Benedict XVI
But I did not deal with his middle name so:
The Pope’s Middle Name
Aloisius a german name means great warrior but comes from the name
Cleophas meaning and name origin
Cleophas \c-leo-phas\ as a boy’s name is of Greek origin, and the meaning of Cleophas is “visionof glory“.
Biblical name: husband of one of the Marys who stood at the foot of the Cross.
Cleophas has 4 variant forms: Cleo, Cleofas, Cleofaso and Cleophus.
Cleophas is interchanged with the name Alphaeus
Alphaeus
which is basically the switch from the Synoptic version and Simon from Cyrene who bears the cross and takes over after Jesus is crucified. In essence to REPLACE the true disciples/apostles with his own sons etc because they were the Chief Priests and they wanted to stay that way and replace Jesus with their own perception of Him. It is the great deception! The Synoptic version of the bible (Matthew Mark and Luke) plus many additional books in the bible to form the amalgamation we now call Christianity.
Basically Rome absconded the truth and twisted it into their baby.
That is why I believe that Mel Gibson has been targeted for his rendition of the Gospels in THE PASSION,
THE BABY or to be more specific THE DEVIL BABY and I wrote a few posts about Mel Gibson and Oksana.
Affliction and the Time of Testing
Mel Gibson and the Book of Acts 2
Mel Gibson, Japan Quakes, and the Kamikazes
Mel Gibson, George Gänswein, and the Pope
George Gänswein, Pope Benedict XVI, and Mel Gibson
revised
You might say I went overboard, which is true, but I am trying to learn and to get your attention and the articles are ongoing because of the events which are at present rapidly unfolding.
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Back to the Prophecy of Daniel
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Daniel 9:26
26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
INTERESTING: NICODEMAS MEANS “THE PEOPLE” AND
IT WAS NICODEMAS AND JOSEPH OF ARIMATHEA THAT BURIED JESUS.
THE POPE’S FIRST NAME
IT’S A GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT JOSEPH OF ARIMATHEA
IS THE “prince of the people“.
Another interesting coincidence: Demas is a fellowlabourer of Paul:
Philemon 1:24
24Marcus, Aristarchus, Demas, Lucas, my fellowlabourers.
You don’t suppose that Demas is Nicodemas?
Joseph of Arimathea (A JUST MAN)
Daniel 9:27
27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Sounds to me like in order to cover-up the abomination he had to make it desolate?
Who is “he” in verse 27?
Is “he” the Messiah the Prince?
OR
Is “he” the prince?
It makes a big difference who “he” is in verse 27!
The thing that concerns me is that we have been waiting for some treaty or covenant that will be confirmed and seems to me we ought to know first and foremost:
what is the covenant that is made with the many?
Then try to figure out
who confirms that covenant with the many!
The Covenant with the Many
Many treaties have been made with many people so what kind of treaty will be made with the many and confirmed with the many that this particular prophecy in Daniel is referring to? Certainly it has to do with the prince and the temple and/or worship and/or sin.
Most treaties we read about in the news most people are unaware of so why would Daniel of the bible be speaking of some political treaty that only the few politicians and leaders involved realize. This is a prophecy about the Messiah the Prince and the people of the prince and he (I assume is the prince of the people)
But it isn’t a treaty that Daniel talks about….it’s a covenant!
To be more specific it is the “covenant with many”!
What is the covenant with many?
I looked up “covenant” in the bible search on line and found a lot of covenants.
The covenant that caught my eye is the one that the Synoptic Jesus makes with the Synoptic disciples at the Synoptic Last Supper
and the verses about this covenant uses the word many.
I think that is a BIG CLUE about this covenant!
MATTHEW 26:26-29
26And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.27And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;28For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.29But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.
MARK 14:22-25
22And as they did eat, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and brake it, and gave to them, and said, Take, eat: this is my body.23And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it.24And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.25Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.
LUKE 22:15-20
15And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:16For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.17And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:18For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.19And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.20Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.
THE GOSPEL OF JOHN
DOES NOT MENTION THIS
NEW TESTAMENT/Covenant with many!
I THINK THAT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT THAT THE
New Testament/Covenant
IS ABSENT IN
THE GOSPEL OF JOHN!
The three Synoptic gospels don’t mention the washing of the feet,
nor the dialogue that Jesus has with his disciples explaining what is going to happen and many other things that is worth the time to study.
WHAT IS GOING ON?
Why are the Synoptic Gospels account of the Last Supper so different than the Gospel of John?
Were there two different “LAST SUPPERS”?
For a break and for fun in an ironic way,
Please watch:
The Last, But One Supper
(It is a Monty Python skit with John Cleese acting like the Pope)
THE GOSPEL OF MATTHEW SAYS THAT BLOOD OF THE NEW TESTAMENT/Covenant WHICH IS SHED FOR THE MANY is
FOR THE “REMISSION OF SINS“.
THE OTHER TWO SYNOPTICS GOSPELS (MARK AND LUKE) EXCLUDE THE “REMISSION OF SINS” TO THE NEW TESTAMENT/Covenant.
THE GOSPEL OF MATTHEW AND THE GOSPEL OF MARK SAY THAT THE BLOOD OF THE NEW TESTAMENT/covenant IS SHED FOR THE MANY.
BUT THE GOSPEL OF LUKE SAYS IT IS FOR YOU. (HE IS TALKING TO HIS DISCIPLES)
EVEN THOUGH THESE SYNOPTIC GOSPELS ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT THERE IS A
NEW TESTAMENT/Covenant.
THEY ARE DISAGREEING AS TO WHO THE NEW TESTAMENT/Covenant IS FOR…..
THEMSELVES (YOU) OR THE MANY.
I HATE TO BE A JERK
BUT THE ACCOUNTS GIVEN OF THE “LAST SUPPER” BY THE SYNOPTIC GOSPELS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT (NT as opposed to the OT)
DIFFER A GREAT DEAL AS TO THIS “NEW TESTAMENT/Covenant” AND ARE WORLDS APART FROM THE GOSPEL OF JOHN
SINCE this “New Testament”
DOESN’T EVEN OCCUR IN THE GOSPEL OF JOHN.
THE PRAYER AND THE DIALOGUE OF JESUS WITH HIS DISCIPLES
HAPPENS ONLY IN THE GOSPEL OF JOHN AND THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION GIVEN!
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Another point by Paul Carlson in his article below, I get the impression that Paul Carlson thinks that all of the contradictions that are contained in the NT makes everything written about Jesus a lie and that is not my point!
I don’t believe that!
I think Jesus the Messiah did come and so did false messiahs and their many supporters to quell the truth against Him, His true apostles and against us.
It’s like saying for example September 11th terrorist attack on the Twin Terrors weren’t destroyed because 3 or 4 witnesses/terrorists don’t tell the same story, hence it’s all a lie and the Twin Towers are still there. That is ridiculous! But that is the point in having contradictions is so that some people will come to that conclusion! Obviously, the Twin Towers were destroyed and something very big happened because they are no longer there.
Deception is in the bible purposefully to deceive and to reveal
An oxymoron (plural oxymorons or oxymora) (from Greek ὀξύμωρον, “sharp dull”) is a figure of speech that combines contradictory terms. Oxymorons appear in a variety of contexts, including inadvertent errors such as extremely average and literary oxymorons crafted to reveal a paradox.
Truth is a funny thing, because it is quite possible these contradictions were said
and did actually happen
…..but by who?
Why don’t the experts and scholars of the bible raise the possibility of what seems to be written in black and white in the bible? I get the impression they are hiding from what seems to be obvious …….
but why?
When Jesus came it made such a stir that Jerusalem was destroyed and their temple, Rome was destroyed and Jerusalem was destroyed again 65 years later. Jesus was big news and his coming had major ramifications! And I believe his enemies made sure of the destruction. propaganda and deception to cover up the truth! History was rewritten to hide the truth and many people were slaughtered!
People that lived under the rule of the Romans were slaughtered when they wrote anything that would make the Romans look bad. And I am convinced those times are coming again soon. So when you read Josephus and other writers, keep in mind that they could lose their lives for what they wrote and so maybe there are hidden meanings to their stories. Contradictions may abound in the bible and in the history given by the major history authors (Josephus included, even though his accounts seem to be false IMO) to point us to the truth while avoiding the threat of death for us to be able to discern via archeology and other avenues and the unfolding at the right time! Possibly the power that caused so much destruction was something other than just the Romans, because they also suffered and suffer now, because they lack the truth and are deceived…..they just don’t realize it!
And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High,
and think to change times and laws:
and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
I think that is what is meant by the words “time and times and the dividing of times” is what has been written about that time and the deception about those times.
I think we are in the times prophesied by Daniel specifically
the “Dividing of time”.
Please read the following fantastic article I found on the internet which is linked next:
The Reliance of Luke-Acts on the Writings of Flavius Josephus
…..”So, Steve Mason, associate Professor of Humanities at York University, Ontario asks:
“If Luke did not know of Josephus’ work, how did this language suggest itself to him?”[5]….
Daniel is talking about he the prince that was to come, the prince that Jesus warns about in the gospel of John.
So when you link to this site below by Paul Carlson and/or read my articles that talk about contradictions
keep in mind that just because there are contradictions
doesn’t mean it did not occur!
New Testament Contradictions (1995)
Paul Carlson
A. WHEN – BEFORE OR DURING PASSOVER?
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The Blood Covenant at the Last Supper
in the Synoptic Gospels seems to be a bit odd
since Jesus had not died yet!
I know I must seem like I’m just quibbling about small details,
(although they are not small to me)
but
since it is a contract
it seems to me it should be very clear and concise!
TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH
I FIND IT TO BE VERY EERIE THAT THE SYNOPTIC GOSPELS AND THE GOSPEL OF JOHN ARE SO DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSITE,
but I’m dealing with it as best I can.
All I can tell is that this NEW TESTAMENT/covenant
is for “many”
or for
“you” which was “them” (the disciples sitting at the table).
Why the controversy?
Can’t they even agree on what the “New Testament” /covenant is, and who it is between, and what it is for?
The reason this is so controversial to me is that I have found many problems in the Synoptic Gospels
and have an inclination
to distrust their word of the Word.
New Testament
the collection of the books of the Bible that were produced by the early Christian church, comprising the Gospels, Acts of the Apostles, the Epistles, and the Revelation of St. John the Divine.
Could the
“Covenant with many”
spoken about by Daniel be the
“Covenant with many”
made at the Last Supper
in the Synoptic Gospels?
Makes sense to me!
If so, then who confirms this covenant?
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Whoever confirms this covenant could be the “he” in verse Daniel 9:27
In my last article on another blog, I wrote called Abomination of Desolation: Part one
(which is also linked here and at the bottom of this post)
the Synoptic Jesus in the Gospels of Matthew and Luke talks about desolation and he says:
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you,
Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say,
Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
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They themselves (The Synoptic Gospels)
testify to the
“Desolation” and a “Covenant with Many”
Joseph of Arimathea (A JUST MAN)
The Synoptic “Q Source”
Josephus and His Footprints
The Dividing of Times – Part One
Time is our ally.
Covenant
Vatican and Arab League sign agreement
Magen David Adom Covenant
- The value of saving lives as seen by the three religions, will be presented to the Pope
Masada
Solved mystery of Masada remains
The Works of Flavius Josephus
Flavius Josephus
Luke and Josephus (2000)
The shipwrecks of Josephus and Paul (Part 3)
Josephus and the New Testament
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My last *four posts that I believe relate to the subject of the covenant follow:
*Abomination of Desolation: Part one
*The Abomination of Desolation Part 2
*In The Garden of Gethsemane
*Sour Wine
Josephus and His Footprints
CONFIRMATION OF THE COVENANT
The Fruits of the Vatican
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Magen David Adom Covenant
- The value of saving lives as seen by the three religions, will be presented to the Pope
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If you have read any of my articles I have a basic theme throughout most of my posts on my blogs and it is that the Synoptic (Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke), Acts and many other epistles are false! I believe they represent a false Messiah and a False Prophet! I believe I have proven beyond a reasonable doubt quite often that they contradict each other and are antithetical to the gospel of John. They promote a political agenda to control the people and quell the truth about Jesus and his message.I think the synoptic gospels were written by thieves of the true Word of God and his true apostles.
I believe these guys killed the true apostles, stole what they could from them, altered their messages, rewrote history to cover up their crime, in collusion with the the powers that be at the time to create their own version of Jesus and God.
The contradictions are pretty apparent if you compare the gospels to each other and read the bible critically. For many years, I didn’t study, but just read what other people thought and still kept running into a cement wall. I don’t think I have all the answers, yet nor do I think I will attain that ever in my lifetime. I write in my blogs as I am learning and hope it will help others that have also questioned the same things I question that is written about God and Jesus.
I don’t think it is healthy to accept what we have been fed for years as “the truth” I think it is healthier to question, study and discuss. I don’t think the ecclesiastic entity appreciates our freedom to question it’s authority on their interpretation of what is written in the bible but who said they have the right to quell our search for the truth? To them it is Apostacy,,,the falling away…. I say it is Apostacy from them, and falling away from them. They think they have the answers…..
I dont think they have the answers, so thats why I write my blogs. Enuf said on that!
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Merangue’s Blog
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