CBS News and JFK Part 5
Now this weapon was found in the building. Perhaps we should say reportedly found in the building from which the shot was fired on the Sixth floor. The man who used the weapon had a clear line of sight to the President’s motorcade although he was located about a block away because he was on the sixth floor of the building he had a clear line of sight on him.
Around the window from which the shot has been believed to have been fired there were bits of fried chicken indicating the man who used that gun had had a chicken lunch while waiting for the President’s motorcade. Also there were some text books and some boxes stacked up in that same window indicating the sniper apparently or possibly rested his gun on some textbooks and some wooden boxes to study?/steady? (not sure which he meant to say) his shot as he opened up on the President.
The man obviously was an excellent shot or very lucky in that witnesses said that 3 shots were fired. At least two of them found their marks. One for the President, the shot that killed him. The other, the shot that wounded Texas Governor John Connally. There has been at least one report that there were two shots that hit the President which would indicate that all three of the shots found their mark.
Now, we’ll go back to Dallas Police Headquarters and KRLD Bill Mercer as he interviews policemen Gerry Hill who has been working on the case almost from the moment that the shot which killed the President was fired. Policeman Gerry Hill has been at the Police Headquarters and has been in the room some of the time, the room in which Oswald has been questioned.
On the left looks like John Travolta from Grease in the news lately having to do with massage shop vampire gayness or the Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales. Looks like either from the profile.
Gerry: The shots were fired. Spent cartridges were found on the Sixth floor uh on the southeast window and we came back downstairs at this time after securing the scene to leave all the evidence with the crime lab.
When we got back downstairs and were talking to one of the officers on the street about what we had found upstairs we received notice by a citizen who was using a police radio that an officer had been shot in the Oak Cliff section of the city.
Q: That was uh Mr. Tippit.
A: That was Tippit. At this time uh Sargent Owens and I were instructed by the inspector in charge at the scene to report to Oak Cliff and begin the investigation out there. On our arrival we obtained a description of a suspect and we began tracing his steps through the aid of civilian witnesses. When we uh first received a location on him they said he was in one of two vacant buildings that were being used for furniture storage in the 400 block of East Jefferson. We reported to this location and uh called for some assistance to secure the buildings. And at that time we went into the buildings checked them out to determine that the suspect wasn’t there.
While we were still at this location we received word that he was in the library at Marseilles and Jefferson. We reported to that scene and then we uh found out this was also a bogus call.
But then the third call which proved to be the charm. Came out that the suspect had entered the Texas theater some 5 blocks away. When we arrived at this location uh we secured the building from the outside and Ray Hawkins and Eddy MacDonald, CT Walker, Bob Carroll, Paul Bently, KE Lines, myself, and other officers went into the building and we began a systematic check of all the suspects or all the people who were the in the theater.
As Officer MacDonald approached a suspect sitting on the third row in the back of the theater. The suspect jumped up and yelled, “This is it.”and took a swing at the officer. Officer MacDonald started to grapple with the man. As he reached for a gun which was concealed under his shirt. And uh the gun was fired one time by the suspect but luckily it misfired. The uh the pin hit the shell but it did not fire. MacDonald yelled for help. And the other officers in the theater and I managed to subdue the man, disarm him and hand cuff him.
At that time we brought him out of the building put him in a squad car and brought him straight to Homicide and Robbery and turned him over to Captain Fritz.
Q: Who were those officers Gerry?
A: Uh Officer Hawkins, MacDonald,CT Walker, Bob Carroll, KE Lines, Paul Bently, and myself were the ones that were actually in along with Bob Barrett from the FBI who was in on the arrest with us also.
Back to Dan Rather in the studio
And now very quickly back to Dallas Police Headquarters for a videotaped live camera scene of Lee Oswald as he was brought into another room for questioning.
Here is the suspect.
Could we reroll it please.
REROLL IT? ACTION:
The suspect is…
Back against the wall…
All right you want to….
Oswald: give me a hearing without legal representation or anything
You shoot the President?
Oswald: I didn’t shoot anybody, no sir.
Notice the man in the center of the picture who looks like a zombie in a daze. Not even looking at the subject of the picture and the center of everyone else’s attention …Oswald, but he looks like he is looking at the wall, I guess.
He kind of looks like George Wildman Ball,
Hmmmmm. That’s odd!.
Wikipedia says that George Ball was protecting others in Washington :
because of the plethora of dignitaries from all over the world that were in Washington DC. attending
The State Department is headquartered in the Harry S. Truman Building a few blocks from the White House and yet here his is in this picture with Oswald.
Was he in Dallas or was he in Washington?
I have a post that tells a little bit about him linked below:
As you just heard Oswald says he did not shoot anybody.
You don’t have to push…..
Knock it off….
I’m being pummeled here.
Knock it off…..
I’m being pummeled very heavily. You just heard Oswald say I did no shoot anybody.
A scene of GREAT CONFUSION, but it does seemed contrived.
IF THEY WANTED A SCENE WITHOUT THIS HYSTERIA THEY WOULD HAVE EMPTIED THE HALLWAY.
Lee Oswald has been charged with the killing of a Dallas Policeman. He has not been charged in connection with the death of President Kennedy. This is Dan Rather in Dallas, Texas.
Back now to Harry Reasoner in New York:
Lets us go right away to the White House in Washington and a report from George Herman:
President Lyndon Johnson left his offices here almost exactly an hour ago. His old offices next door in the Executive Office Building his office which he occupied as the Vice President of the United States. Tomorrow morning he’ll be back in the Oval Office here in the West Wing, the Office of the President. Before he left tonight President Johnson conferred with the top advisors of the Kennedy Administration: Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, Assistant Secretary of State George Ball other leaders, Congressional Leaders of both parties from the House and from the Senate. He talked by telephone with J. Edgar Hoover discussing the progress of the investigation into who who was the assassin of the late President Kennedy. He talked to Texas to talk to the doctors of Governor Connally. Was told that Governor Connally’s condition was good.
Tomorrow at 9:30 Lyndon Johnson starts his first full day as President of the United States. Meets at 9:30 at his office with the Secretary of State Secretary Rusk. Secretary Rusk has been flying all night. Is expected back here in Washington around midnight. He and five other Cabinet Officers were on their way to an important economic meeting in Japan when they heard the word in the Mid Pacific turned around and on on their way back to Washington.
Around the same time that President Johnson meets with Secretary Rusk, Mrs. Kennedy and the body of the late President will be entering the White House. The President’s body will Lie-In-Repose in the East Room, the gold and white East Room, of the White House where President Kennedy provided/presided over so many dinners, so many formal entertainments as President of the United States. Tomorrow the body will be seen by the family and by officials of the United States Government. After that it will be taken from the White House in an official cortege to the Rotunda of the United States Capital at 1:00 o’clock Sunday and there it will lie not in repose. but In-State for one day. Members in the President’s family, his Cabinet, and government leaders and members of the Supreme Court and Congress and Diplomatic representatives of the countries of the earth will be present at ceremonies placing the President’s body in the condition of Full-State-Mourning.
The public will be permitted to file past the beer (not sure what this is) in the Rotunda shortly after it’s arrival and until 9:00 Sunday night and once again Monday morning from 9 until 10:00 o’clock in the morning. Then the body will be moved Monday at 11:00 o’clock to St.Matthews Cathedral between 17th and 18th Street Northwest on Rhode Island Avenue for a pontifical requiem. A requiem mass at 12:00 o’clock noon. The mass will be celebrated by the late President’s good friend his eminence Richard Cardinal Cushing the Archbishop of Boston.
The late President Kennedy had once discussed the question of possible assassination with CBS News Correspondent Charles Von Fremd. Here are Correspondent Von Fremd’s recollections of that event.
A casual conversation with John Kennedy about 12,000 feet over the Great Plains in early July of 19 hundred and 60 came back to haunt me today. On that July evening I was one of 4 newsmen flying with the Democratic Presidential hopeful in his family plane The Caroline on a flight back from South Dakota. The Primaries were behind the Senator. He had won them all. Earlier that day he had won pledges from 4 South Dakota Delegates to the Democratic Presidential Convention that was to start 10 days later. The Senator was confident and for the first time really thought the White House might be his. He knew that I had covered the White House during 6 years of the Eisenhower Administration and asked how living in the White House would differ from the day to day life of a Junior Senator from Massachussetts. Among other things I pointed out to Senator Kennedy the Secret Service would endow/allow (not sure if endow is the right word but sounds like it but it does not make any sense but then neither does allow!) to a great extent, that is, if he won the White House dictate how he moved about outside the White House. The President for instance was told by the Secret Service when and where he could take care of physical necessities while on the road: The food he ate, the highways he took had to be approved by the SS. The Senator slapping his thigh in a characteristic gesture said he thought the Secret Service while a dedicated and confident organization was really faced with an impossible responsibility. John Kennedy argued that any intelligent sharp shooter however mad could gun down the President of the United States if he wanted to badly enough and planned it carefully enough. He thought the Secret Service agents running along side the Presidential limousine in the motorcade only succeeded really in just blocking the view of the average public who turned out to see him. President Kennedy did make some drastic changes in Secret Service rules. He frequently relegated the Secret Service driver to the back seat of his limousine and took the wheel himself. On his recent trip to New York City he drove the Secret Service Agents and the City Police to despair by dispensing with the heavily protected motorcade.
He often popped out of hotel suites minus a Security Guard.
A slur insinuating nonsense. Give me a break!
How would Charles Von Fremd know?
Like many men who have had several brushes with death and survived John Kennedy treated death with contempt.
It is ironic that when the assassin’s bullet came it came when he was under heavy security guard. And in death, John Kennedy proved himself a prophet (Licks).
I can still hear him observe in that cool casual manner aboard The Caroline more than 3 years ago that an intelligent sharp shooter could gun down the President if he wanted to badly enough. It was a risk that John Kennedy enthusiastically chose to take and it cost him his life today (Licks). This is Charles Von Fremd in Washington. (Licks).
(Of course, it wasn’t a sharp shooter it was Jackie sitting next to him that killed him. Or her double.
The Zapruder film shows Jackie with a smoking weapon.)
Back to Harry Reasoner:
Here is a brief summary of the events of the day and those to come. Upon today’s assassination of President Kennedy Lyndon B. Johnson became the new President of the United States. The body of President Kennedy will Lie-In-Repose in the East Room of the White House all day tomorrow Saturday. On Sunday a cortege will move the late President to the Rotunda of the Capitol where he will Lie-In-State Sunday afternoon and Monday.
The White House announced tonight that former Presidents Eisenhower and Truman will go to Washington this weekend to join the nation in it’s official mourning. On Monday at noon Boston’s Richard Cardinal Cushing a close friend of the family will officiate at a at a pontifical requiem mass in Washington St. Matthew’s Cathedral.
Throughout this coming weekend President Johnson will be briefed by the men who are now his Presidential Advisors as those Cabinet and government officials return to their posts in the Capitol.
In Dallas the business of bringing an assassin to justice continues. Police say they have a prime suspect in 24 year old Lee Harvey Oswald a pro Castro Marxist who once defected to Russian then returned to this country claiming disillusionment with the Soviet system.
For the moment Oswald has been charged with the murder of a Dallas policeman killed on a street near the assassination’s scene. Police say that Oswald was in the building from which the President was shot at the time of the assassination. Oswald has denied any involvement in the assassination.
Texas Governor John Connally the second victim of the shooting is reported in satisfactory condition at Parkland Hospital in Dallas, he is expected to recover.
CBS News reported earlier today that Senator Goldwater was reached with the news of President Kennedy’s death as he was flying to Muncie Indiana for a political dinner. This in fact was not the case. The Senator was on his way to attend the funeral of his mother-in-law. Senator Goldwater called the President’s death shocking and dreadful and asked, “how can a thing like this happen? The President’s death is a profound loss to the nation and the world,” said Goldwater. “He and I were personal friends. This is also a great loss to me. Mrs. Goldwater and I offer our heartfelt sympathies to Mrs. Kennedy and the President’s family.” That reaction from Senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona.
In Washington if there is a hope and a sign tonight the new President of the United States has it. He has plunged head long into his new and monumental duties with full energy reportedly anxious to get the machinery of government moving as quickly as possible.
The CBS Television Network will broadcast no commercial entertainment and no programming until after the burial of the late President Kennedy which will probably be on Tuesday in Boston, Massachussetts. CBS will return on the network tomorrow and through the weekend to continue to report on the latest developments as President Johnson assumes his new duties and responsibilities.
At 6:03 P.M. Lyndon Baines Johnson age 55 returned to Washington aboard an Air Force jet as the 36th President of the United States.
Johnson remained aboard the plane until President Kennedy’s body had been removed. Then he and Mrs. Johnson walked slowly down the ramp and over to a group of waiting Congressmen. For 23 years of his 26 years in national politics Mr. Johnson had served with these men, first as a congressman, later as a United States Senator. These were his friends the men he knew and understood best.
Tammuz the Crab
President Johnson being led about by Chief Rowley of the Secret Service
(but not really)
at Bethesda Air Force Base.
Please read both posts about the shepherd crab and about Billy Graham:
Johnson helped to pull Texas and Louisiana gack in to the Democratic Column. Both had voted for Dwight Eisenhower in 1956. Mr. Johnson campaigned with his characteristic energy:
“……are against sweat shops in the Democratic Party and so are you.
We are for the working people in the Democratic Party and so are you.
We are for the working people in the Democratic Party and so are you.
We are for the farmer in the Democratic farmer and so are you.
We are against bigotry in the Democratic Party.
We are for equality before the law of all men regardless of race, religion, or the region in which they live and so are you.
And if you will give us your hand, and if you will renounce the and the Coolidges and the Hoovers and the Bensons and the Nixons and give us your hand and your heart, your voice and your vote, on January the 20th we will give all the people of all the states of all the regions an Administration that will be of the people by the people and for the people.
Goodbye and God bless you!”
Back to Harry Reasoner
The results of that campaign are now history. the Kennedy Johnson ticket squeaked through with a plurality of just over a hundred thousand votes. On a cold blustery day in January Lyndon Johnson stood before an inaugural crowd in Washington to be sworn in as Vice President by his old friend Sam Rayburn:
LBJ: I, Lyndon Baines Johnson….
Sam Rayburn: Do solemnly swear….
LBJ: Do solemnly swear….
Sam Rayburn: That I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic.
LBJ: I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic.
Sam Rayburn: That I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same.
LBJ: That I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same.
Sam Rayburn: I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion
LBJ: I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation whatever
Sam Rayburn: And I will faithfully discharge the duties of the Office upon which I am about to enter so help me God.
LBJ: And I will faithfully discharge the duties of the Office in which I am about to enter so help me God.
Back to Harry Reasoner
President Kennedy had decided at the outset of his Administration that Vice President Johnson was to be a working Vice President, not a ceremonial figurehead. One prime mission that Mr. Johnson undertook for the President was an around the world fact finding tour. A tour to sound out other chiefs of government and to access the wills of people in foreign lands.
In Germany Vice President Johnson went to the Berlin Wall.
And on the other side of the world a visit to
Leader of Nationalist China on Fermosa
And then there was Mr. Johnson’s visit to the Vatican for a call on the late Pope John.
The Vatican outdid itself for the then Vice President’s visit. The meeting with the pope had all the appearances of a friendly formal visit. But all that went before and after the personal meeting with the pope was conducted with all the pomp and fanfare that one might expect for royalty.
President Kennedy had made his Vice President a member of the Committee on Government Contracts and at a
meeting of Nation’s Industrialists attended by President Kennedy, Mr Johnson told them of their responsibilities as contractors for the government:
“…..all over the world but assuming he didn’t we demonstrated that Americans believe what they say in their Constitution and their Declaration of Independence and that uh no single American is black marked and hand cuffed and put over in a corner because of his religion.
And we demonstrated something else that I think equally important and maybe more so that you can elect a Vice President from the South regardless of his region.
Uh so we’ve made a good deal of headway in these fields and we think we are improving our system. And you are here as one of uh some 100 men who we look as the Titans, the leaders the the uh ones that have gone up the rung of the ladder, and we want other people to learn much from you by both precept and example. And we don’t want to do it with a pestle at your temple. And we don’t want to say, “We have the authority. Here’s the Executive Order. Cancel out the contract. Let ’em send their lobbyists and their lawyers down here. We just a we don’t like the report we got, because we’re not operating that way. And the thing that pleases us, particularly today, is that a good many of you have no defense contract and you are going to be a showcase for America and in each of these 104 nations that constantly hear this propaganda every day: that we only grow babies for breakfast.”
I have no idea what he is talking about.
Walter Cronkite has interviewed most of the nations leaders. He has had long chats with General Eisenhower, with President Kennedy, and during the last campaign there was this interview with Mr. Johnson. Walter Cronkite: Why would a man who loves these hills and has this magnificent ranch and this vista you got here on the river want to uh ever take the time out to fight these hard difficult battles in the distant remote Washington D.C.?
Johnson: Well uh Walter uh I think that we enjoy the time that we spend here but all of my life uh I have wanted to be a public servant as my father ahead of me was and I grew up uh wanting to help people with their problems and I get a satisfaction and a sense of achievement from uh constructive efforts on behalf of human beings that you can’t get in almost any other profession. Uh I will have been in Washington 30 years come next year and uh I think I would just be lost if uh I didn’t work uh in some public field. If I couldn’t be on public life I would want to be a teacher as I was before I entered the public life because uh I could have an influence on the minds of the young people and lead them in the directions I would like to see them go. I’ve often said that if I had a boy I’d want him to be either a politician or a preacher or a teacher because they would have a sense of achievement that comes uh uh from few other professions.
Walter Cronkite: Well now, it took you a little while to find this way of your life. Uh you here at the ranch uh you wanted to get away early in life you you went away as a laborer before uh your disappointed father succeeded in getting you back and into teacher’s college. Uh why did you want to leave in the first place?
Johnson: Well uh Walter I didn’t want to leave, it was more of a necessity. I i worked all of my life. As a little boy I shined shoes at the barber shop. I was a printer’s devil I ran off the weekly paper on Thursday afternoon the Old Washington Press, I inked it. Uh that’s one I
Walter Cronkite: That’s Washington Texas press.
Johnson: When I uh When I uh That’s the name of the press. Uh when I uh graduated from high school at 15 I wanted a job and there were not any jobs to be had around here in 1924. So I took the old philosopher’s advice Horace Greeley and went west, young man and worked two years in california in the Platt Building as an elevator boy in San Bernadino and finally wound up in the lawyer’s office.But I came back and mother talked me into going to college and during the period I was in college I taught a Latin American School down in South Texas and it gave me great satisfaction and I thought I wanted to be a teacher. So when I finished college I went to Houston taught a year and then the great opportunity of my life uh came to me when Congressman Clayburgh one of the owners of the King Ranch asked me to go to Washington as his Secretary in the Hoover Administration in 1931 and uh except for a brief period of 15 months I’ve been in Washington ever since:12 years in the House, 12 years in the Senate, 5 years there as the Secretary.
Walter Cronkite: Had you given any thought to a political career before that appointment to go to Washington?
Johnson: Yes uh I assumed ever since they first told me of Grandpa’s uh prediction uh I had an ambition to be a United States Senator and uh I took the steps that I felt were calculated to prepare me for that work to make it possible for me to be elected. I was first elected to Congress when I was 28 in 1937. In 1941 Senator Sheppard died and I ran to succeed him. I was defeated in a very close race by the then Governor of the State W. Lee O’Daniel. He defeated me in 1941 by 13 hundred and 11 votes out of more than a million. And then I waited until 1948 and when Governor he then Senator O’Daniel decided not to run I ran for that place and had a uh very close race but was elected in November and have been in the Senate (not sure of the words but I think this is what he said) since that time.
Walter Cronkite: Well that loss to uh Senator W. Lee O’Daniel must have been a rather bitter one for you, your first major State race. Did you uh, what did you ascribe your loss to then?
Johnson: No it wasn’t bitter uh. I think that uh Governor O’Daniel is a very popular public figure at the time and I was a very young man and had uh was unknown uh though out the state. I represented the uh district in Central Texas and uh I I would ra ….I ran rather surprisingly well uh well the uh at that age and with the resources at my command.
Walter Cronkite: Your technique of leadership is considerably different. Uh Uh If I may I’d like to quote uh uh from a chap here who one observers quoted one of your Being won over Johnson is a rather overwhelming experience. The full treatment is incredibly potent mixture of persuaion, badgering, flattery, threats, reminders of past favors and future advantages. Well that’s a technique for leadership obviously. Uh How does this....
Johnson: I would say I would say that uh uh the fellow was more interested in his sentence structure than he was accuracy. Grins
Walter Cronkite: Laughs
Johnson: Uh uh you don’t deal with Senators really that way uh I think the only thing uh that uh that is calculated to appeal to members of the Senate is a presentation of the facts and the soundness of your logic. Uh nearly every Senator that uh takes the oath of office is uh is elected on a platform of doing what’s right and uh your problem as leader is to convince him that uh the cause you represent is the right cause. Now uh uh there’s not any favors you can do for a Senator that you remind him of uh there’s no cajolery or flattery involved uh uh that doesn’t appeal to a man that’s capable and worthy of representing one of the great states in the Union. Uh they’re not school boys. Even though some of these fellows that uh write these things sometimes uh uh make them sound uh that way. Uh I would say that uh I try to follow the old prophet Isaiah’s advice “Come let us reason together.” And uh that course of action uh always appeals to reasonable men.
I don’t want to sound unreasonable, but right after he said ‘reasonable men’ he licked,
which he rarely does in this interview.
I find this kind of odd… the timing, that is.
And most Senators are reasonable uh uh Republicans sometimes uh a little more difficult for us Democrats to reason with then the members of our own party but uh all of ’em are patriotic uh uh uh members of the Senate and they want to do what’s best for their country. And uh once they’re convinced that the cost …the course of action that you present is for the best interest of America uh you’ll usually have a lopsided vote in your favor.
Walter Cronkite: Senator uh since you were a protege in a sense of uh Franklin Delanor Roosevelt in in those early days of the New Deal with your NYA Administration here uh you were identified with the more liberal element of the Democratic Party in those days and I think in recent years the identification has been more toward the conservative side. Is is this uh the kind of the normal development of a man do you feel toward the liberal to the conservative and is this a tendency that’s likely to continue in your own life, do you feel or?
Johnson: Well, I presume that we all become a little more prudent uh as we uh grow older although I’ve never been much of a believer in uh labels. I’m a great admirer of President Roosevelt’s now just as I was then. Uh he hasn’t changed uh uh in my viewpoint any and uh as I engage in a little introspection I haven’t changed much. Uh uh my philosophy is that I’m a free man first and uh an American second, United States Senator third, and a Democrat fourth. In that order. Now, I’m a member of the Democratic Party because I think that uh through the vehicle of that party I can best uh see my philosophy translated into action. I believe my party cares more uh about the problems uh of the people of this country and is more concerned with helping them with their problems than the Republican Party and for that reason I’m a Democrat. But uh uh Im uh a free man and American and a Senator first.
Walter Cronkite: Senator uh uh
Johnson: I don’t go in much for the labels of the liberal and conservative. Uh I think you can be a progressive uh Senator and still be a prudent Senator. I don’t think you have to be a wastrel. I think we’ve demonstrated that in the Democratic Party by cutting 12 and half billion dollars uh from the President’s budget request. I think you can be a Conservative uh Senator without being a reactionary Senator/ Uh but labels don’t mean much to me what I’m interested in is is this peice of legislation or is this uh project or is this program good for my country? Is it the right thing to do? And if it’s good for my country, it’s good for my party, and consequently good for me.
Walter Cronkite: Senator Uh uh the darkest day I guess in your uh in your life came in 1955 when you had the heart attack, which we all know about. But I’m wondering how that uh experience affected your philosophy. I know that there are some who we in our researchers have talked to and they in the Senate to uh said that t before that they sort of thought you were a brash young politician but after that they thought you became the politician’s politician. That this was a turning point in a way. Do you feel that yourself at all?
Johnson: No, I don’ t think it had any uh uhappreciable affect on the course of my conduct at all. I think during the period of 60 days when I was uh uh away from the Senate Chamber that uh I had time to reflect and uh really appreciate all the good people that I had known and uh how unworthy perhaps I had been of their devotion and their friendship. Uh, I know that uh I never really recognized the fact that uh uh the Senators could be as good men as they demonstrated to me they were. Uh, I remember Senator Nowlin wrote me nearly everyday that I was in the hospital and I had communications from every member of the Senate except one. A good many of ’em came to see me nearly everyday and uh it was their interest and in their prayers I think that sustained me during that period uh when I was somewhat distressed. But uh after the initial two months and I came back here to the ranch I haven’t observed that it’s affected my conduct of public business uh at all. As a matter of fact, I am sometimes amused when I think of the letter I received from President Eisenhower uh telling me that he had read in the papers of my activity and he thought I was uh uh going to work a little too fast and he hoped I’d slow down. And that letter was went to me without a signature by General Person. General Person said that it was the last letter dictated by the President the night before he had his heart attack and he was lecturing me on slowing down a little bit to just before he had his.
Tonight Lyndon Johnson is the new President. Our Correspondent at the White House George Herman has a report on the new occupant:
President Lyndon Baines Johnson like the man he succeeds is above all a political pragmatist.As the Leader of the United States Senate he often told us that he always counted the votes he thought he could muster before leading his party into a fight. He thought wasting his parties energy on a fight he could not win was not only wasteful but foolish and Senator Lyndon Johnson was wise, efficient, and able. He led all the many voices inside his party speak on every issue. He squelched no shade of opinion, but still the Senate under his leadership moved ahead steadily and with dispatch. President Johnson is not the lightning fast reader and talker as his predecessor was. He likes to talk slowly likes to slip in anecdotes and to make sure that his meaning is fully taken on any one subject before he moves onto another. President Johnson has a considerable streak of toughness in him and surprisingly to most liberal Democrats at least he has along liberal record behind him. He came to Congress in 1937 as a very strong supporter of President Franklin D. Roosevelt. So strong and so vocal in fact that President Roosevelt brought the young Congressman to Washington aboard the Presidential yacht. He served as a Federal Youth Official in Texas. A Negro college President in that state has long since revealed that Lyndon Johnson kept their colleges going during the Great Depression by channeling federal funds in their direction. Unlike former President Truman President Johnson has not only been kept on the inside of the secrets of the Kennedy Administration he has also been sent as a spokesman around the world and has gotten a good taste of world problems and more important perhaps the way other nations view the United States and Washington. The big question of course in any sudden change of Presidents at mid administration (I think this is what he said, but not sure) is which of the members of the organization which President Kennedy so painstakingly built up President Johnson is going to feel comfortable with. He will of course review the entire administration man by man and in time the shape of his own new administration will begin to show. One historical and inescapable fact must always be born in mind the Presidency is an office of great weight. It has enormous momentum. And as every President since Franklin D. Roosevelt has discovered the office tends to mold and shape the man to a form that few of his friends would have guessed at beforehand. Tomorrow Lyndon Baines Johnson will sit at the desk of the President of the United States and the molding shaping process on our new President and his government will begin. This is George Herman at the White House now back to Harry Reasoner:
We understand that Adlai Stevenson has just made a statement at the White House and we’re going to switch there
now for that statement by videotape.
The tragedy of this day is is beyond any instant comprehension. All of us knew him (licks) will bear the grief of his death until the day of ours and all men everywhere who love justice
Someone says: Louder?
and freedom and peace will bow their heads. At such a moment one can only turn to prayer
Someone says: Well we can’t move. What?
Prayer to comfort our grief to sustain Mrs. Kennedy and his family and to strengthen President Johnson and to guide us in time to come. May God help us all.
A lot of things are being said and wondered about the new President tonight but only he can know what it is to be called upon suddenly to take on the burdens of that office. The weight of grief of concern were apparent as President Johnson returned to Washington this evening.
This is a sad time for all people. We have suffered a loss that cannot be weighed. For me it is a deep personal tragedy. I know that the world shares the sorrow that Mrs. Kennedy and her family bear, I will do my best. That is all that I can do. I ask for your help and Gods.
I don’t really know if it is possible but I heard him say humans so I went back to hear it again and he said again the word humans and then when I went back again to be sure that I heard correctly then in its place he said people all within a minute or so while transcribing this just now. Hmmm:)
As the new President is being studied by the world the late President is being mourned. Throughout the country there will be services of grief and tribute. Tonight in Los Angeles a Memorial Mass is held for John F. Kennedy. Our reporter is Charles Coralt:
Kids singing a hymn.
This is Charles Coralt
(whispering in some dark corner)
at the Our Lady Chapel in South Street in Los Angeles. Our father John Sheridan is officiating at a solemn Requiem Mass for the late President Kennedy:
Tomorrow there will be a final hour for the public to pay there final respects to the President before the President leaves Capitol Hill for the last time.
The last soldier milit…
(Harry Reasoner in New York interrupts this program)
We are now switching to Dallas where they are about to move Lee Oswald and where there is a scuffle in the Police Station.
Someone says: Has been shot. Lee Oswald
We’re gonna (…..garbled calm chatter by reporters.)
Switch now. (Yelling in the scuffle.) Police police are pulling.
We’re going to switch now to Bob Hoffhacker down in the placement of the Court house who is close to the scene. Go ahead, Bob.
(Bob :In a very southern accent) The situation now is now that Lee Harry Oswald has been shot.
The man who saw the shot fired said it was fired by a man wearing a black hat a brown coat a man that everyone down here thought was a Secret Service Agent. (All the reporters are talking to their respective listeners so many are talking at once but saying different things, but the guy leaning down crouched in front is the one speaking to the camera) who looks eerily like John Cusack, the actor! Since there are so many other actor participants in this assassination and coverup.
I would not be surprised if it is John Cusack.
Why not? I’ve seen Amanda Plummer and many other actors that are a part of this National Tragedy even though they were
just kids at the time this occurred just like most of us. Somehow we are all involved as if it is evolving now. Anything is possible and since realizing the clergy’s role and particular clergy that I believe I have discovered acting in an evil manner in this assassination and occurring as other momentous deceptive religious events were and are now occurring that affect you which are extremely menacing to you and your loved ones and your fellow man and even your enemies. I have tried to share what I notice even as outlandish as it may sound.
But then back in the 40’s and 50’s actors were blackballed and seemed to be important enough to be blackballed. Obviously they can be used as a tool by some especially when it comes to propaganda but that doesn’t mean they hadn’t evolved in their response to these measures. Same goes for the clergy, newsmen, government officials and civilians propelled into this controversy.
It is a collision of sorts like “The Big Bang” or the collision I wrote about between “The synoptic gospels and the gospel of John.” It is obviously very important and should not be ignored.
Here is a good example :
Basil Christopher Butler OSB (7 May 1902–20 September 1986), was a convert from the Church of England to the Roman Catholic Church, a Roman Catholic priest, the 7th Abbot of Downside Abbey, one-time Abbot President of the English Benedictine Congregation, a bishop, an internationally respected scripture scholar,
a consistent defender of the
priority of the Gospel according to Matthew,
and perhaps the pre-eminent English-speaking Council Father at the Second Vatican Council(Vatican II, 1962–1965).
Bishop Butler was at the airport in Dallas the day of the assassination which I wrote about in the link below:
Seems to me JFK’s funeral was based on this premise
of St. Mmatthew’s pre-eminence
and his funeral details were planned by the government and Jackie Kennedy
as far as I know.
I guess if they can kill him at church they can kill him on the street was said or similar statement by him according to his Secretary Mrs. Lincoln. Was he?
This is no small affair.
This is big business.
Whether it matters to you or not
it mattered to them
and it will affect you,
Wasn’t the disciple Matthew a Tax Collector?
Maybe this assassination and it’s cover-up, Vatican ll, the Vietnam war and everything else afterwards is merely about
tax exemption for churches and money laundering through those churches.
Big Business, Banking, and the MOB
but at who’s expense?
Or more importantly who really was Jesus of Nazareth?
Which gospel is telling the truth?
The Synoptics Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke
or the Gospel of John?
The following post compares the Synoptic Gospels about Jesus with the Gospel of John which I hope you will read:
I hope again that the limits of time such as past, present, and future will not inhibit/limit you as a reader to believe that you are a participant in this serious struggle, even then, as strange as it is.
I may seem a bit callous and doubtful but that is because of the things that I have found out through this investigation
and also I may be overly suspicious but because of my findings I believe I have every right to be overly suspicious.
But I do know that this is important and it is not a waste of my time.
The evidence has only recently been released to the public and in a trickle.
The government could not or did not handle the issues back in the sixties and dropped the ball, maybe intentionally
and now it is up to us to try to understand
what did occur and by whom and why it matters.
By the way the government is supposed to be us.
So it is up to us to do something about it over and above the ridicule and derision
that is associated with the attempt.
And even though it is as perplexing as it is,
I hope you won’t ignore the possible consequences
and try to help as best you are able.
What you do or do not do
may actually have an effect on the outcome
back then, now, and later!
The …Oswald was moved immediately from the area. No one knows at this time where Lee Harold Oswald is
(but his comments seem to be dubbed not matching his lip movements like a very bad movie, but it was as it happened, supposedly.)
At the present time word is that an ambulance is being ready to take Oswald away. We can hear sirens outside. And an ambulance apparently is moving down now into the basement
.(Wow that was fast within seconds of the mass turmoil and he’s getting all this word. News does travel fast)
Here comes the ambulance and a Oswald will be removed now.
The ambulance is being pulled up in front of us here. Here someone has
Get back, back.
Just get low okay. Okay Okay Okay.
Pat can you move. Pat move just a little bit to your left.
We can see now that police are fending off newsmen in the basement in Dallas City Hall fending them off so that uh Lee Oswald can be taken to an ambulance which was just brought into the basement of the City Hall. Switching now to Bob Hoffhacker downstairs.
Oswald will be removed quickly outside and the only word so far is that the shot came from a man wearing a black hat and a coat. Here comes Oswald. He’s he is ashen and unconscientious at this time now being moved in. He’s not moving. He’s in the ambulance now and attendants, police are quickly climbing in. They are now having to move the armored truck from the head of the basement entrance here.
This is the armored this is the armored truck on the outside of the Dallas Police Department.
It’s being moved out on to Commerce Street and now the ambulance is coming out the ambulance with Lee Harvey Oswald who was shot just a few minutes ago as he was being transferred to the uh from was planning to be transferred from the City Jail to the City uh City Police Department…..
We are back at headquarters in New York. We have..We got our tape. We have reracked the videotape that shows that
whole scene of confusion we will now roll it and you can see it as it happens:
<——–About this time a car honks.
Photographer getting a good shot
on the right of the snapshot..
Someone yells: Here he is.
There he is.
<———-Then the shot is fired.Obviously, whoever honked the car
was signaling whoever shot the gun.
Right after the shot immediately this monologue occurs from some press person calmly as if he already knows what is happening before it occurs reflecting in words what is occurring.
This is a basement for of the Dallas City Hall and that’s a scuffle on the basement floor. It seems to be …garbled
Policeman behind the man in a coat and hat tries to disarm him, I think.
Someone says: He has been been shot. Oswald has been shot. (Sounds like Hoffhacker)
We’re going to….Lee Oswald
Oswald has been shot.
Harry Reasoner: You have just seen the replay of the videotape of the actual shooting of Lee Oswald in Dallas. Now
we’re going back for live coverage they’re talking to the Police Chief down there now:
Someone asks:…..fired the shot. How many shots?
Someone says: Just one shot.
Someone says: Just one shot. Uh Now then just (garbled) Is the man upstairs in the cell?
Policeman: As far as I know he’s either in uh the jail or at Cpt. Fritz’s office. I would imagine he’s probably in jail.
Hoffhacker: Do you uh do you know this subject? Do you know him? Have you seen him before.
Policeman: Yes, I do.
Hoffhacker: Is he from Dallas?
Someone says: Who?
Someone else says: He is?
Hoffhacker: Who is he?
Someone else asks a question but can’t tell you what it is because a few people are speaking at the same time.
Policeman answers: I couldn’t tell you.
Hoffhacker: Well you can’t release the name now but uh do you know what kind of business he happens to be in?
Policeman: Uh, Bob, I I wouldn’t want to say.
Someone says: Right, okay.
Someone else a familiar voice says: Uh, did he have to be disarmed or did he give up?
Policeman: We had to disarm him.
Someone asks: Did he struggle?
Policeman: Uh as much as he could yes but…..Disclaimer: This is a very chaotic scene, people speaking, yelling, and asking questions all at one time so the order of Q and A in this interview transcription of the you tube is hindered by what is not heard but heard by the Police Officer. It is hard to know is some spots who he is answering or what question he is answering and the meaning of his responses which might be easily misconstrued.The same goes for the scene in the garage when Oswald is killed. I guess that is why we need investigators to conduct a good report. I will check to see if the Police officer was interviewed by the Warren Commission as soon as I can.======
Woman in background looks familiar. She looks like the woman at the White House who turns around when the name Shriver is mentioned in speaking about the kids in the report given by George Herman in Part 1maybe Part 2 of this series. She also resembles the lady at the CBS News Studio in New York with Walter Cronkite in the background smoking and seemed to be giving signals or trying to in
Part 1 and maybe Part 2 of this series. I will check on that soon.
Also interesting descriptions from some Sen. Yarborough, Dr. Crenshaw, ambulance driver Aubrey Reich from O’Neal Funeral Home of the scene at Parkland hospital and the power struggle over his President Kennedy’s body that ensued.
So you have to wonder if and why Jackie and JFK
are hanging out with Lee Oswald on a boat?
What Jackie knew – Part 4 (4:02/9:25)
19 Do they provoke me to anger? saith the Lord: do they not provoke themselves
to the confusion of their own faces?
7 O Lord, righteousness belongeth unto thee, but unto us confusion of faces, as at this day; to the men of Judah, and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and unto all Israel, that are near, and that are far off, through all the countries whither thou hast driven them,
because of their trespass that they have trespassed against thee.
This is Walter Cronkite back in our CBS Newsroom in New York. We will be returning to Washington of course, uh very shortly. But this is to report again that Lee Harvey Oswald the 24 year old Marxist Pro Castrolite to Dallas Police said they had a cinch case against the accused assassin of President Kennedy was himself shot to death in Dallas an hour and a half ago. He was shot in the basement of the City Jail as police attempted to transfer him from that jail where he had been held since the assassination to the County Jail a few blocks away.
Why in the world were they moving him to the County Jail? Who knows for sure but in my opinion as yet it was an excuse to cause more confusion and mayhem and lay the blame elsewhere. Smoke and mirrors.
The police captured a man at the scene who reporters saw shoot Oswald and have booked him. They say his name is Jack Ruby or Rubenstein. He is 52 years old, a bachelor, a Dallas nightclub operator who as fas as anyone has been able to find out had no particular political opinions.
Someone passes something to Walter Cronkite.
Rubenstein (Walter licks) uh or Ruby as he is known there had been in Dallas some ten years. He (garble or a glitch) automobile just outside the entrance to the basement leaped a three foot fence and with perfect timing dashed into an open door of the basement just as Oswald was led from an elevator from an upstairs jail toward an armored car that had been brought to the jail for special precautions for moving him to the County Building. Ruby if that uh turns out to be the man involved in the murder of Oswald ran forward right up to Oswald and from less than a foot away fired a small caliber pistol. The bullet did mortal damage to Oswald who apparently never regained consciousness. He was taken to Parkland Hospital and died an hour and fifteen minutes after he was shot in a Emergency room just 10 feet from the room where President Kennedy had died almost exactly 48 hours before.
And now let’s go down to Dallas and Dan Rather:
In Dallas with Lee Oswald the man accused of assassinating President Kennedy, dead.
The big question now is what kind of man shot Lee Oswald,
In Dan Rather’s mind it worked…the smoke and mirrors. Off of the assassination of JFK and on to the assassination of Oswald, but not really🙂
We have in the studios of our affiliate station KRLD TV here in Dallas Bill DeMar who is a nightclub MC, a comedian by profession. Bill worked in the nightclub owned by Jack Ruby. Jack Rubisstein (as he pronounced it) is his real name known in Dallas circles as Jack Ruby.
Q: Bill how long have you been working at the Carousel Club owned by Jack Rubenstein?
Bill: Uh, this time about two weeks.
Q: You had worked for him before, had you?
Bill: Three times before, this is my fourth time here.
Q: The Carousel Club is located right in downtown Dallas. What kind of place is it?
Bill: Well it’s a nightclub. Uh it has about five or six exotic dancers uh all (garbled)
Q: Is it a pretty rough place?
Bill: No, no a there’s a lot of people that have said to me when they came up to me after shows or between shows that said that they liked the place because it was intimate. (licks)
Q: What kind of man is Jack Rubenstein?
Bill: Well, if you know him he’s he’s a pretty good type guy. He, uh always treated me right and we always got along real well. Uh, I consider him more of a friend than an employer.
Q: Is he an extrovert? Is he a hand shaking backslapping rather loud type person?
A: In a way, yes. Yes, uh uh kind of impulsive. He’d change from one thing to the other, sometimes do things out of the clear blue.
Q: You say rather impulsive?
Bill: At times.
Q: Could you give us an example of what you would consider as some impulsive actions?
Bill: mmm, No, his mind would would uh uh is always working is always going and uh he’d be uh possibly talking to you about one thing and all of a sudden he’d take off about on something else.
Q: Is he married? What the heck does that have to do with it?
Bill: No, he never has been, to my knowledge. It seemed that he mentioned to me before that he never married. Doesn’t drink, doesn’t smoke.
Q: There have been some reports that uh he came to Dallas from Chicago. Do you know anything about that?
Bill: No I don’t.
Q: Does he have a police record of which you are aware?
Bill: No, not that I know of
Q: Did it surprise you when you heard this morning that he’d possibly fired the shots which uh wound up killing Lee Oswald?
Bill: Definitely, I was very shocked and very saddened uh that uh Jack would even be involved. But, uh, I don’t know. The fact that he had closed the club so definitely like he did ur uh putting up a sign saying closed and taking the pictures out of the front of the club and um not calling me notifying me that he had closed. Uh, he had somebody else call, but I never got the message.
Q: Now when was this? He called when to tell you the club was closed.
Bill: He didn’t call me.
Q: I see.
Bill: Uh he had somebody else call me.
Q: When was this?
Bill: Uh, Friday uhhh when I had heard about the news of the President uh I reluctantly got ready to go to work because I hadn’t got the message that he had closed. They failed to deliver the message to me and so I got ready to go to work and got down there and saw the sign on the front saying” Closed” and I drove around to the other two clubs and they were closed, but they had no notice.
Q: Did he own two more clubs in town?
Bill: No I the other two uh burlesque clubs that are near there.
Q: I see. Do you know anything about Jack Rubenstein’s political philosophies?
Bill: No he never uh spoke about anything. When we’d go for breakfast afterwards or anything the only thing he’d talk about was his business.
Q: Did you ever hear him say anything about President Kennedy?
Wow listen to this!
Q: Do you know Lee Oswald? Have you ever seen him?
Bill: To my knowledge if I recollect correctly I saw him in the audience last week.
Q: Lee Oswald in the audience at the club?
Q: At the Carousel?
Q: Which is owned by Jack Rubenstein?
Q: That would have been about how many days ago?
Bill: eight, nine
I wonder why Oswald was at Jack Ruby’s club a week before?
Q: Do you remember the specific uh instance what happened with Oswald in the club? Was he simply in the audience?
Bill: No I was doing a memory routine and uh I use about 20 people in the audience and have ’em call out an object and then at random I call the objects back to them uh whoever wants their object called first or whatever the case may be. It seems to me he was one of the people uh after seeing the picture in the paper I remember seeing him in the audience as one of the people that gave me an object.
Q: Did Jack Rubenstein speak with Oswald to your knowledge?
Bill: No, I didn’t, I didn’t see him. I don’t think Jack even knew he was in there.
Q: You don’t think Rubenstein knew that Oswald was in the club. (Bill nods sideways) It’s such a strange coincidence that uh he would be in the club. Do you think it possible that Rubenstein knew him?
Bill: I don’t think so. Well, uh I don’t know for sure.
Q: uh huh. Could you possibly be mistaken about Oswald?
Bill: Being in the club?
Bill: Well, I don’t know. I’ve remembered the face, and I do remember faces.
Q: In your own mind you’re certain it was Oswald.
Q: Had you made an effort to see uh Jack Rubenstein since the shooting this morning?
Bill: No I had thought about going down there now because like I say he’s more of a friend than an employer and I did want to see him.
Q: Before all this happened would you have thought that Rubenstein was the type of man capable of such violence?
Bill: No, no Jack uh acted a little harshly sometimes but uh nothing like this. I wouldn’t have thought he’d do anything like this
Q: What do you mean he acted harshly sometimes in (garbled) with his employees?
Bill: No no uh uh garbled employees and sometimes customers. If they got a little out of hand why he was ready to put them out.
Q: Do you know whether he carried a gun on his person as a matter of general course?
Bill: Uh yes. Uh he carried it in a bag when he went back and forth to work.
Q: What kind of. Have you seen this pistol?
Bill: Uh yes I saw it once uh a little over a year ago. Last time I was here.
Q: What kind of pistol was it garbled?
Bill: A little, sharp nose, it was very small uh little pistol. He only carried it when he went back and forth to work. I never saw him on carry it on him you know or anything like that.
Just in the bag as protection, because he was carrying the money. (Sounds like Judas of the gospels)
Q: Uh huh.
Dan Rather: We’ve been speaking with Bill DeMar a professional entertainer who has been a master of ceremonies at the Carousel Club in downtown Dallas a club owned by Jack Rubenstein.
Q: Uh Bill, there have been some reports that Rubenstein did own either now or sometime in the recent past another club in town. Do you know anything about that?
Bill: The Vegas.
Q: The Old Vegas Club.
Q:Is it still in operation?
Bill: It was until he closed it because of the President’s death
Q: But uh so far as you know he did own that club in addition to The Carousel?
Bill: Yes. To my knowledge yea he did
Q: Do you do you ever recall seeing any unsavory characters or people that you might associate with the underworld around the club
Bill: No, no.
Dan Rather: Let’s see now if we can get the picture, the police picture, of Jack Rubenstein.
That’s a profile and a head-on shot of the man accused of assassinating
the man who was accused of assassinating
Bill looks a bit perplexed.
This is Dan Rather in Dallas Texas. Back now to Walter Cronkite in New York.
There were many witnesses to the shooting of Oswald allegedly by Jack Rubenstin Rubenstein. Uh, one of them was a a Detective Combest who knew Rubenstein very well and he said he saw him charging into the garage just as Oswald was being taken from elevator to the armored car. He said he knew what he was going to do, tried desperately to stop him, shouted an epithet at him to stop but was too late in reaching Ruby’s side and uh the shot was fired. (licks)
How would Detective Combest know what Rubenstein was going to do?
It looked to me like Ruby was standing still behind someone (a cameraman I believe)
before Oswald came in
and I did not hear anyone shouting an epithet to stop
in the video.
Repeating what you have been told in the last uh few minutes. Lee Harvey Oswald the man Dallas Police accused of killing President Kennedy has himself been killed shot in the basement of the Dallas Jail. We will now return to Washington.
Adding this section because I came across these links
because of the name Detective Combest mentioned by Dan Rather.
Whether or not these sites and the information given is true or not true, I don’t know,
but I thought I should include them and the snippet of information I think that might matter:
Talking about the transfer of Oswald and the location at the City Jail
“Mr. HUBERT. Well, now, what precautions were taken to assure that people who did not belong there would not be there?
Mr. COMBEST. Well, everyone that went out into the basement from the jail office had to have the press card, proper identification showing that they were members of the press and police officers. Other than that no one was admitted to the basement parking area. “
“Mr. HUBERT. Did you hear Oswald say anything?
Mr. COMBEST. No, sir. He–I didn’t hear him say a word hardly, after he had been shot. He was moaning at the time Jimmy Leavelle, Graves, and I laid him down on the floor and removed the handcuffs that he had on him.
Mr. HUBERT. That was in the jail office? “
“Mary LaFontaine, co-author of Oswald Talked (1996; Pelican Books, Gretna, Louisiana), which argues convincingly that Oswald and Ruby collaborated in a pre-assassination gun-running scheme, recalls her own reaction to that Sunday shooting:
“When those of us who are old enough saw Ruby shoot Oswald, we knew there was something wrong. There was some kind of conspiracy, and this man was being silenced.””
I have no idea if any of this is important, because I think IMO at this time that the scene at the Dallas Jail is an act. I don’t think Oswald was killed. I think the Oswald business is merely a diversion. In my earlier part of this series called CBS News and JFK
I think I have caught Oswald in his act.
And I believe the Oswald Oil Business was his reward for that act.
I’m not going to investigate that business
because I’m pretty sure by now they wouldn’t tell me. LOL
Until just a moment ago the people who passed by the beer/bier (sounds like beer but quite possibly may be referring to “the Berliner” or “Bierliner”) were close friends and uh the family of the late President and official guests. Just a moment ago the lines were opened. Now the masses who have assembled here in the Plaza are passing down a long double file. Army, Navy, Marine, Air Force Soldiers standing at Parade Rest. Four breast they come in and then are
separated in two single files.
Even after all the people have come today this still will be the scene tonight because the remains of the late President will stay here in the Rotunda over night under guard with a soldier at each corner of the casket and the Captain of the Guard, two Color Guards with the American flag and the Presidential flag.
This video is showing some of the same footage as in the video above.
This tape 29 also contains more of the interview of Chief Jesse Curry and an interview of the man with him in the picture above who is Captain Glenn King of the Dallas Police Force.
Duh, Gee. I wonder why?
Dan Rather: Did you know the man Jack Ruby. Do you know him?
Eddie Barker: I have met him yes. He’s been around a long time. He had the one violation here uh a state liquor law violation for selling beer after hours in 1955, December 1955.
Dan Rather: I understand he came to Dallas from Chicago in 1948.
EddieBarker: That’s correct. He was born in Chicago in 1911.
Dan Rather: Is this the only uh Police Record that he had here?
Eddie Barker: This is the only record we have been able to run down to this time, however a further check may bring up something else, but the only record that we were able to run down on him so far, is the liquor law violation in 1955.
Dan Rather: We have some notes gathered from CBS Newsmen in the field
Eddie Barker: Incidently I might say that he has a sister here that uh
Dan Rather: I was just going to say that uh we have someone, either on your staff or ours, has spoken with Mrs. Eva Grant who is a sister to Jack Rubenstein. Mrs. Grant uh describes her brother as a very uh patriotic sort of man uh with no particular political leanings other than he was always um very out spoken for the man who was President at any particular time. And I think she made the point that he was is a very pro Kennedy but he had been very pro Eisenhower, for that matter. And that she also said that he was quite upset about the assassination of President Kennedy on Friday. He had closed both of his clubs, that is the Vegas Club which we understand he owned and The Carousel Club which I believe he operated. Someone else owns it is our understanding. She said he was a very generous uh man, but also extremely outgoing, uh extroverted. And that’s the picture we have on Jack Rubenstein at the moment.
I wonder who owns The Carousel Club?
That’s the story from Dallas on the assassination of the man accused of assassinating President Kennedy.
This is Dan Rather with Eddie Barker in Dallas. Back now to CBS News Headquarters in New York:
The doctors at Parkland Hospital said that the single shot could scarcely have done more damage to a body than that shot did to Lee Harvey Oswald. It penetrated his spleen, his pancreas, the aorta, the kidney and the liver. A massive injury and massive bleeding also led to his death. The Justice Department has dispatched an Assistant Attorney General Jack Miller to Dallas to confer further there with police authorities. They say at the moment they do not know how they will treat the case whether they will look for further suspects now or consider the case closed now that Oswald himself is dead.
There ya go!
That is what the assassination of the man who assassinated JFK is all about.
CLOSING THE CASE.
And we just have a bulletin in here that says Police have arrested a roommate of night club owner Jack Ruby. The man identified as George Senator. Senator had appeared voluntarily and was being questioned, but now apparently has been arrested although no charges have been filed. (licks) We don’t know what the significance of that bulletin is as yet.
Which is kind of eerie because Lee Harvey Oswald resembles Senator Arlen Spector
who promoted the single bullet theory in the JFK assassination.
Well, what kind of man was this now dead Lee Harvey Oswald?
Harry Reasoner tells us about the accused assassin in this report recorded just before Oswald’s death.
licks as some man walks by behind him.
Who is Lee Harvey Oswald who was shot today
this man who Dallas Police say killed John F. Kennedy?
We don’t know the whole story. We may never know the whole story, but we do know that his big passion in life was politics. Leftist politics,
One man who debated him in New Orleans says that Oswald spouted communist propaganda like a machine. When the subject changed Oswald was less sure of himself. He faltered. He groped for words.
Physically, a fairly ordinary man, a firm jaw, regular features, straight black hair. He was born in New Orleans in 1939. His father died just before he was born. He was the youngest of three children. The Oswald family moved several times in the next few years. First, in Ft. Worth Texas, then to New York. Then in 1953 back to New Orleans. They lived first on this block on French Street, a neighborhood of neat level houses on a broad street.
An ant lived nearby.
(Funny, I have an aunt named Patsy that lived nearby. It is a southern name, I think.)
ONe of Billy Graham’s ants, or was Oswald one also? An ANT that is.
I say that because Billy Graham is involved and was at the airport in Dallas
disguised as a Secret Service Agent Jack Ready
the day Kennedy was assassinated and because of the
Parable about the Ant
related by Benny Hinn is about
an ant and the Creator
created by Billy Graham.
Anyway the you tube about his parable is nested in my article which I hope you will read called:
Also, here is the another post about Billy Graham at the airport the day of the assassination of JFK
which I hope you will read which is linked and is called:
Just before he graduated from Jr. High the family moved to Exchange Place in the Old French Quarters in New Orleans. This is a short run down street.
so the street on
which he lived makes him an assassin?
He and his mother occupied a small apartment over a Pool Hall. The rest of the street is dotted with bars, a barber shop a novelty store. At about the same time Oswald filled out a personal history sheet in school.
This is scary!
TODAY’S RIDICULOUS AND HARMFUL AND INSANE
NEWS ABOUT PUBLIC SCHOOL POLICIES:
DOCTORS NOT MAKING ENOUGH MONEY NOW?
BIG BROTHER IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS:
to make conclusions about their character
just in case they are an alleged criminal someday
and before they have representation.
He said he had two brothers, but he listed no names. He said he was a Lutheran, but he listed no church where he attended. He said he planned to enter the military service or to become a draftsman. He liked reading and outdoor sports, especially football. One question asked if he had any personal friends. He said no. Oswald was only enrolled in Eastland Highschool for about a month when the family moved back to Ft. Worth Texas, but several girls now married women who attended Jumior High School with him remember him.
A: He’s just very very quiet and kept to himself. He was in my home room, but I don’t remember much about him because he wasn’t very personable. He didn’t seem to get along with everybody. Talk alot.
Q: (garbled) he did best in in Civics and Art while he was at Beauregard. And we we a lot of times associate an artist with a with a non-conformist. A person who doesn’t dress or act like other people. Did did this kind of fit the description of uh Lee Oswald?
A: Yes, it did. He was kind of like well he was like an odd ball. He just didn’t mix with those other kids in school.
Q: Do any of you uh ever remember him having any difficulties in class with any of his teachers? Did he uh did he seem to get a long with all of his teachers or was he a belligerent person in class? Did he argue with teachers?
A: No. He more or less kind of wanted to do things for ’em. Don’t you think he was that type?
A: What I remember I mean he was a good student and wasn’t a trouble maker.
A: He seemed more like a book worm. All of the ladies nod and say yes and agree.
Q: While he mentioned also in his history record that he he liked to read a lot. Did he, did uh, did he carry a lot of books? Did you ever notice him carrying a lot of books, more books than other students, for example?
All three say: no
A: Usually (I think is what she said) a book to take to class…
Q: Alright there has been uh a couple of people in the city who uh knew Lee Oswald after he he grew up when he came back to New Orleans and they said that they almost immediately knew that it was Lee Oswald who had had assassinated the President. I I realize uh at 14 years old it’s probably a little early to form an opinion, but uh did the Lee Oswald who attended Beauregard Jr. High seem to be the the type of a person who would uh commit such an act?
A: No, but like they say thats the ones you have to watch, the quiet ones, and you don’t know what they’re going to do. He didn’t seem like it then.
A: I I can never remember him just laughing or smiling. He always just sort of smirked, tight lipped.
Back to Harry Reasoner:
By all accounts Oswald was a loner. He himself said he had no close friends. The girls didn’t remember anyone who was particularity close to him. But there was one young student Edward Vogel who went out of his way to befriend Oswald and he tells about it:
Q: Would you tell us uh your first encounter as you can recall. This has been what about 8
A: It was about 8 years ago.
Q: Eight years ago? Tell us about it.
A: Uh, uh well I. He came in uh Beauregard’s mid-semester and uh he had uh a fight with a couple of boys and that’s how I first uh saw him. And uh as the the next day he uh someone had punched him in the mouth, but uh Oswald didn’t know, I didn’t know uh and I don’t think the boy even know him, knew him. Uh, I think these boys that he had a fight with them put this other guy up to punch him in the mouth to get back at him because Oswald uh did beat the other boy. And uh Oswald was laying down on the ground and I ran up to him and I think a couple other boys did too and we brought him back into school and uh washed his mouth off and put some uh cold compresses on his mouth.
Q: And and this is uh more or less the start of a friendship between you and Oswald at that time?
A: Well, that’s when we first met uh was when this happened.
Q: And uh what type of boy was he at 15? I understand that this was about the age of of that year?
A: Well, uh he didn’t uh seem to mix to well with the uh the rest of the boys or the girls and anyone there at the school. He didn’t seem to have any uh friends. He didn’t seem to be really interested in anything uh. He didn’t participate in any extra-curricular activities. Uh he was just a loner, it seemed like. licks 9:38/10:28
Q: I’ll tell you one one reason I’m concerned about the age of uh 15 and this reportedly is when uh Oswald first became interested or came in contact with the Marxist Theory. Now did he at any time during your relationship with him did he mention anything about his readings of uh uh Leftist or Marxist uh uh literature?
A: No, he (clears throat) he didn’t mention uh anything at all about uh any politics or socialism, communism, marxism or anything and I don’t believe that’s true. I don’t believe he had any really basic ideas on uh marxism or anything at 15 years of life. I think uh that came later somewhere along the line because uh he never mentioned anything like that to me at all. licks again
Q: Now in in…
This guy interviewing named Ed Vogel looks quite a bit like Senator Spector also. Weird!
(Kind of a mix between Dan Rather and Arlen Spector with rings under his eyes, for that matter)
Q: Now in in talking uh earlier before this interview you had mentioned you had been to his house. Could you tell tell us a little about his home life?
A: Well, he uh when I knew him he lived in Exchange Alley I think it was 126 Ex Exchange Place or Alley. Uh it was small apartment (says in an northeastern accent) and it lived above above the pool rooms and uh in that area there’s nothing but pool rooms and bar rooms and it’s almost a skid row. It’s a very bad uh neighborhood.
licks again 0:43/10:33
Q: Well this uh was before or after his father died?
A: Oh, this his father, from what I understand dying when he was very young and uh this was after I think he had moved to Texas and after his father had died his mother brought him to Texas and he came back here again and this was his second time in New Orleans.
Q: Any sort of uh as I understand it blamed the world for his his uh problems? Isn’t that what you mentioned earlier?
A: Well, uh it seemed that way to me after I at the time I didn’t uh uh have any basic opinions why he was a little different then uh uh most of us uh it didn’t uh enter my mind at all uh. I uh sort of liked him and that uh because he wasn’t exactly the general run-of-the-mill that I had known at school. Uh he was a little above them, he seemed to be at least even though he was, he came from a a poor family. that’s sayin he wasn’t exactly a roughie. He just had a little something about him that was just a little different from the average ruffian that I had know at that school.
The young man looks and acts and talks like he is in a trance, sedated,
as if he were on pain pills.
His eyes are in a daze, and glassy eyed.
He is out of it and not in control of his senses.
Oswald returned to New Orleans in May of this year. In the interim he had served in the Marine Corps with a bad record. He had also gone to Russia where he announced that he was going to become a Russian citizen but he then changed his mind and returned to this country with a Russian wife. He, his wife and their small child rented an apartment on Magazine Street in New Orleans and Oswald apparently devoted a good deal of time to the New Orleans Chapter of the Fair Play For Cuba Committee a Pro-Castro Organization of which he was local Chairman.
Last August 16th Oswald and an unidentified young man distributed pamphlets promoting the Fair Play For Cuba Committee on a New Orleans street corner.Not too many people seemed interested. A week before Oswald got in a fight with Cuban Exiles because of the leaflets and was charged with disturbing the peace. He listed his occupation at the time as a mechanic and he was released after paying a $10 fine. At about this time Oswald sent his wife and the young child to live with his mother in Texas, then in the middle of the night he himself left leaving unpaid a half months rent.
His movements since then are not known to us until Friday morning when it is known that he was in the building in which the fatal shots were fired at John F. Kennedy.
Of course, didn’t he have a job at the School Book Depository?
And that, of course, was just two days before Oswald’s death.
That uh film that you saw was provided to us by our affiliate in New Orleans WWL TV, We might make note here now that CBS News is going to continue broadcasting these special events today and throughout the National Day of Mourning tomorrow CBS Television will not resume it’s normal programming until Tuesday.
Recounting again the events of another dramatic day in these series of dramatic days. Lee Harvey Oswald the 24 year old Pro Marxist Pro Castrolite to Dallas police accused of assassinating President Kennedy and of shooting Governor John Connally of Texas who is recovering today in Parkland Hospital himself was shot in the Dallas Police Station today by a man police have identified as Jack Rubenstein, a Dallas Night club operator 52 year old bachelor with no known political affiliations.
Here is the picture copyrighted by the Dallas Morning News and Service by the Associated Press which was taken a split second before the man identified as Ruby fired the shot as Lee Oswald you see there was being led from an elevator to an armored car, a special armored car which had been ordered to try to transfer him safely to the County Jail a few blocks away.
Why not leave him in the City Jail? The angle of the picture was absolutely perfect for a good shot of this dastardly deed as if someone knew it would occur ahead of time,
that or the photographer was really tall.
Instead of trying to get a great photo a split second before it would have been samaritan-like to try to stop Jack Ruby. If you have the where-with-all to snap a picture without shaking and blurring the photo as most people would have done in a time like this it might have been heroic to try to protect the prisoner for the sake of humanity and the integrity of justice, well hopefully anyway.
But then this may have been justice a clever ruse anyway.
Oswald did not regain conciousness. He shouted Oh Oh and fell to the floor taken to Parkland Hospital where he died an hour and fifteen minutes later. He had never uh admitted to the police the charge lodged against him that he was the assassin of President Kennedy. Let’s look at a Keniscope slow motion replay of the murder as captured by CBS Television cameras. (5:18/10:33-a play-by-play description by Walter Cronkite of Oswald’s assassination which can be viewed at the settings given on the video-tape of Part 57.
If you take the time to do this,
please compare the angle of the film to the angle of the picture above:)
This is the basement of the Dallas Jail. The figure you see immediately in front of you uh is blocking a view of the elevator out of which Oswald is to be led. Now that figure steps back. It is from this side from near the camera that you will see the man police say was Jack Rubenstein known locally as Jack Ruby will appear. Police had cordoned off the Dallas City Jail, taken extraordinary precaution against any threat against Oswald’s life, but somehow Jack Ruby who was known to most of the police as a prominent nightclub operator got into the building and then shot Oswald according to the charge. So if he is convicted of that charge it will be 52 year old Jack Ruby who may make the trip through the green door at Huntsville’s Death Chamber in Texas rather than Lee Harvey Oswald, if he had been convicted of the charge lodged against him of killing the President of the United States. Newsmen coming forward, cameramen to get their pictures. Radio and television reporters in the scene. There where you see the lights at the end of the corridor is where the elevator doors would open to permit Oswald and his guard to come down this short corridor to the armored car parked just to the left at the entrance to the garage.
There had been some question raised in Dallas as to what turns out to be an unfortunate decision to have used an armored car instead of a normal Police Patrol Wagon which could have been backed right up to the elevator door practically and would have perhaps prevented this shooting of Lee Harvey Oswald, the shooting which forever sealed his lips and may have prevented police from ever getting the full story of what was behind the assassination of the President of the United States.
Now we should be seeing Oswald very shortly emerging in the right of the screen there. THERE is the MAN IDENTIFIED AS THE ASSASSIN JACK RUBY THEY SAY, THE MAN IN THE GREY HAT CROUCHING COMING RIGHT IN FRONT OF OSWALD AND LUNGING FORWARD FIRING HIS SHOT FROM A FOOT AWAY. POLICE OFFICERS CLOSE IN BUT THE FATAL SHOT HAS BEEN FIRED all they can do now is capture the murderer. Oswald himself crumples to the floor pitching forward with a bullet through his lower ab abdomen that pierced most of his vital organs. You see him now on the floor. The police crowded around the man they have identified as Ruby. That is Oswald on the floor and disappearing now over to the right, the murderer. He was pushed almost instantly back down the corridor into the elevator and taken up to the City Jail. All of this slow motion you see took place of course in the matter of a few seconds. The small caliber revolver that fired the shot was held so closely by the murderer and was fired so closely to the to Oswald that the shot scarcely was heard even in that cement corridor in the basement of the Dallas City Jail.
I watched this slow motion Keniscope replay and the picture above could not have been acquired by this film.
So the picture above must have
come from another camera source either set up ahead of time
for this momentous shot
or there was a camera set up already in that garage.
That would explain why there was not a Patty wagon used,
because there would not have been
a momentous shot acquired.
SO the Dallas Morning News and Service by the Associated Press
must have been tipped-off in order to have this famous copyrighted photo
and at the same time protected someones and somethings
other than the truth
and received accolades and who knows what else
for their betrayal.
All I can surmise from that
is the press is controlled by the mob.
Walter the slow-downed version you showed there as you mentioned was a Keniscope of the videotape. Now from a somewhat different angle cameraman George Phoenix in Dallas captured the same scene. So let’s look now at the same scene from a somewhat different angle.
Well, this video does not explain the photo of Ruby with the gun a split second before shooting Oswald.
It is still not the right angle
as the photo that Walter Cronkite showed above
that was copyrighted and owned by the
Dallas Morning News and Service by the Associated Press!
Who owns this paper or company?
George Bannerman Dealey (1859–1946) was a Dallas, Texas, businessman.
“Dealey was the long-time publisher of The Dallas Morning News. He used his influence to accomplish many goals but will always be remembered primarily for one of them. He crusaded for the redevelopment of a particularly blighted area near downtown Dallas. When the redevelopment, involving a large square located at the intersection of three major avenues, was completed, it was named Dealey Plaza in his honor. This site became known worldwide when, on November 22, 1963,President John F. Kennedy was assassinated while his motorcade drove through Dealey Plaza.”
Dan Rather continues:
Keep your eye on the hat, the man in the hat. There’s Oswald emerging through the doorway in a dark sweater accompanied by an officer and a western style hat. Now the THE HAT begins to move. A muffled shot rings out. There’s the man the lower right hand portion of the screen. Oswald groaned just barely audibly and police moved in quickly on the man who fired the shot. Oswald lay crumpled on the floor while Police subdued the man in the hat with the pistol. As soon as the man who fired the shot was uh wrestled away from Lee Oswald he was hustled immediately back in the Police Station, that is back in the main portion of the Police Station.
The shooting occurred in the very basement of the Dallas Police Station and the City Jail. More and more reports coming in from friends of Jack Rubenstein who used the name Jack Ruby as a night club operator and owner here in Dallas. A very close friend of Ruby told CBS News just a few minutes ago that Ruby would have been among the last people in the world they would have thought would have fired a shot at anyone. He was described by this close associate as he was described earlier by his sister who lives here in Dallas as an outgoing extroverted man, not a wealthy man. A man who owned one nightclub The Vegas and who reportedly owned The Vegas. He operated The Carousel Nightclub. Rubenstein was quite well known by a number of Dallas Police Officers
and the unanswered question at this moment
is how Rubenstein got in to the basement of the Police Station under the tight security. Uh the answers seem to be that Rubenstein was so well known by Dallas Police Officers that no one even took special note of his presense. He had been in the Police Station for the last several days. He had been around uh passing out cards, offering reporters drinks uh saying “Come on over to my place”, uh “We’re glad to have you in Dallas”, “Hope you come over and make yourself at home.” He’d been hanging around the Police station and uh around the corridor outside where the questioning of Lee Harvey Oswald had been underway um for the past 24 to 36 hours and therefore uh it seems to be that his presence in the basement this morning caused no particular concerns simply because he was so well known by a number of officers. (And reporters:)
My question is Did Ruby have a Press Pass?
The clergy around the airport where JFK arrived a half hour before he was assassinated
obviously had Press passes
so why not Jack Ruby.
Uh the one of the Police officers interviewed immediately after the shooting uh before it was known who did the shooting said uh “I saw the man who did the shooting. He is known to me. I know who he is.” So that’s possibly the explanation of how Jack Rubenstein got in to the very tight security ring that had been placed around the whole area to which Lee Oswald was to have walked.
But that is not what the man known as Tommy Lee Jones
(the actor that stars in the movie Men in Black)
said in the “live” film at the garage of the City Jail in Dallas on the you tube above in this post.
He is being misquoted as far as I know to some degree. The interview at the garage of a Police Officer is very confusing because there are a number of people asking questions at the same time and it was very hard to determine which questions his answers pertained to and what he meant by those answers. I would say that the interview by the press of the officer was incomplete because of the chaos. Whether there was an interview of the Police Officer later on that Dan Rather is referring to I have no idea. Maybe the interview of the Police Officer has been edited leaving out important information.
Also I could not hear some of the questions asked to include in this portion. He may have been answering a question not heard. It was very disorganized and chaotic having just occurred soon after Oswalds assassination….I think ,
if it really happened.
Obviously, from what Dan Rather says everyone knew Ruby around the Police Station,
including the reporters.
Isn’t that what Dan Rather just said? So why is he pinning recognition of Ruby on one man, the Police Officer?
I highly doubt if that officer were responsible for Ruby’s presence he would say what he said
and implicate himself unless he is a dunce;) or playing a dunce.
But honestly I would venture
he the Police officer was being forthright
and Dan Rather is trying to find
for some reason.
This reminds me of the comedy The Princess Bride (one of my favorites) where two men are drinking and switching drinks around one of which is poison and playing Russian Roulette with that poison and the thought processes of one of the villains.
This is Dan Rather in Dallas. Back now to CBS News Headquarters in New York.
And uh word also in just now from Dallas that Homicide Chief Captain Will Fritz who had been one of those in charge of interrogation of of Lee Oswald has now said that the case of President Kennedy’s assassination is now closed with the death of Oswald. That’s the opinion of the Police officer in Dallas. It may not be the opinion of the Secret Service or the Federal Bureau of Investigation. A uh Special US District Attorney uh is flying to Dallas and is going to confer down there with officials. The Dallas Police have placed under arrest we have been told Lee the uh Jack Ruby’s roommate and presumably interrogation as to what precisely motivated Ruby will continue.
The death of Lee Oswald came uh almost to the moment 48 hours after President Kennedy the man he was accused of assassinating died in the same Parkland Hospital where Lee Oswald’s life expired. It came also almost the moment that Eulogies were being said over the casket of President Kennedy in the Great Rotunda Hall of the Capitol in Washington. We will go back now to Washington.
The thousands of Americans still file by the catafalque of the late President in the Rotunda of the Capitol Building here in Washington.
Outside on the East Front the line of
mourners that is to pass through the Rotunda has thickened. Although the crowd that once occupied the grass, the lawns, the East Front of the Plaza itself have uh thinned out. There all concentrated in this one single line. The line is fed from both ends of the Capitol Building from the House Wing, the Senate Wing in the shape of a GIANT M first heading back to the Supreme Court then doubling back straight at the East Front. Blue coated Policemen still stand at parade rests along the curb stones that make their pattern along the Plaza. Those arches lead into the House Wing.
Who planned this design? JacQUELine?
Was the “M” symbolic for Mary or St. Matthew, or both?
Don’t forget that Bishop Butler
who I think was at the airport in Dallas dressed as a pilot the day of the assassination of JFK (along with the press, clergy, photographers, diplomats, and Secret Service entourage )
and was defender of the priority of the Gospel of Matthew
at Vatican ll in 1963.
Here is an article and sample about the priority of the gospel of Matthew and it’s folly:
10And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
“……..Then why bother talking to them in parables!
Does that make any sense? Why gather people about you and talk so they don’t understand?”…….
Click on link above to read the rest.
Jack comes from the name Jacob.
You know, it depends upon which direction you view that GIANT “M”
It very well could be a GIANT “W” for Jacob’s Well.
According to the schedule this signals the change of the guard.
Marine, an Air Force enlisted man, a Sailor, and a Soldier.
Raise and lower their rifles.
I know their is a military term for that but I don’t know what it is off hand even though I’m a military brat. I think it is
a farewell with honor.
President Kennedy served for a 1000 days.
2 Peter 3:8
“But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing,
one day is with the Lord
as a thousand years,
and a thousand years as one day.”
I think this is a good place to end this page but will continue to Part 6:
Kind of a funny part in this post with
District Attorney Henry Wade licking his way through a press conference.
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